Cinetica

Courtesy of Wolf, owner of this Cinetica, are these original Cinetica documents (click on images to enlarge):

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Cinetica

My thanks to Wolf who writes, "I bought it in March 1991 from my frame builder in Bochum, Günter Krautscheid, who bought it from Andrea Cinelli and completed it. The price was 4390,00 Deutsche Mark which in Euro is 2245,00 Euro. For that time it was very expensive. The whole bike with Campangnolo C Record gear and the two Spengle Tri Spokes was around 12000,00 Deutsche Mark which is in Euro around 6150,00 Euros. I used the bike just "on Sundays and good weather conditions" and I haven't used it since I stopped practicing Triathlon in 1998. The last photo is a recent one of Günter Krautscheid in front of his shop in Bochum."

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Cinetica Stem

I have seen Cinetica handlebars (photos here) but thanks to reader Peter we now have photos of a Cinetica stem. Note that it is adjustable to 95, 100 and 105 mm):

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Cinetica

A nice Cinelli Cinetica is on ebay at this moment  but it has some issues, "the right side shifting lever cable guided probably dropped inside the frame, and it became not usable. I am not an engineer, I cannot repair it. The shifting cable don't come out from the frame, but the cable house is inside the frame."

Interestingly, the frame has no serial number, the seller speculates that it may have been a prototype. Size is given as 57.

You can find more Cinelli Cinetica information from previous blog posts, see the right column under Cinetica.

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Cinetica Handlebars

carbon center, 26.0; 42cm center to center


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Cinetica

This is the 3rd Cinetica we have photos of. You can click on Cinetica on the right margin to see the others.

This particular frameset is currently on ebay with this description:

"A little Cinelli history: In the late 1980's, early 90's Cinelli produced their cult classic: the Cinelli Laser, during that same time they also produced the Cinelli Cinetica. This exact frame (see pics) that I am selling: the Cinelli Cinetica was manufactured very briefly because the technology at that time was prohibitively expensive when working with carbon fiber monocoque one piece frames and forks. The Cinelli Laser at that time was all steel and did an excellent job mimicking the gentle slopes and fillets of carbon fiber in a steel frame, with carbon fiber that is all natural in the manufacturing process. The Cinelli Cinetica was way ahead of it's time and only a small batch of them were ever produced in the entire world

What I have here is one of the rarest racing frames ever manufactured: The Cinelli Cinetica carbon frame and fork. The frame serial number is 0016, it's the 16th frame made.

This is the last frame of it's kind, even rarer than the Cinelli Laser. What makes this frame special is that it is BRAND NEW. This frame has never been assembled, it is factory new, zero miles, been packaged up for 21 years. The fork is also brand new, uncut.

This is a true carbon fiber monocoque built racing frame. Hand made in Italy with the expertise and cooperation of 3 world class companies:

Cinelli

Campagnolo

Ferrari

This is the frame that started it all. The Italians had carbon fiber perfected way before anyone else

Here is a brief background on this rare frame: In the late 1980's Andrea Cinelli decided to manufacture the ultimate racing frame. Along with Ferrari and Campagnolo the design was perfected and production went into effect. All the Cinetica frames used Campagnolo dropouts stamped: Cinetica. As for the authentic Ferrari red paint, that was provided by Ferrari along with its special carbon fiber formula one race car blend.

You will not find much info on the internet about Cinetica, if you google it you will find a few pics which by the way are mine since I have owned multiple Cinelli Cineticas...this one is special because it is 100% new.

Why is this frame so rare, it started it all...while everybody was messing with aluminum and steel, Cinelli had a vision to use carbon fiber. Cinetica was 20 years ahead of its time.

OK, here are the frame specs:

Size: 55cm (center to top)
Top tube length: 54cm (center to center)
headset: 1" threaded (fork is 100% new, uncut).
Bottom Bracket threading: Italian
Seatpost diameter: 27.2mm (seatpost not included)
Front derailleur: braze-on
Frame and Fork weight: 2870 grams
Wheel size: 700c
Condition: BRAND NEW, zero miles, never assembled.

I reserve the right to end this auction anytime.

This frame is a piece of cycling history, there is nothing like it anywhere today...I know for a fact I have the last brand new Cinelli Cinetica frame and fork.

This is the rarest frame in the world.

Good Luck!"

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Cinetica

A reader from Amsterdam writes about his Cinetica "Giotto" (see original brochure and other photos here) in Amsterdam. He writes:

"It was a nice surprised to find the Cinetica Giotto on your site. In 1989, I bought my Giotto in Amsterdam and even though in the meantime I have had many different bikes, I never could sell this one, so it is still in my possession. My serial number is 20.

Up till now I have only once spotted another one in Holland. In Italy, where I lived in 2003 and 2004 I have never seen one nor during the years I rode Gran Fondo's in Italy.

One year ago I decided it was a shame to have such a beautiful bike hanging in the garage and never use it, that I transformed it to a city bike. As I am riding it more frequently now, a lot of people tell me they have never seen a nicer bike than this Giotto, so I am still very happy with it. I only have little problems with the paint job, since one year the bike has a little
osmosis. Beside this bike I have 3 other racing bikes, including a Pinarello and an Italian custom titanium bike.

Please find herewith a recent picture of the Cinetica Giotto made over!"

The origin of GINO on the frame? "I bought the bike in Amsterdam at a bike shop named Cycles Gino (Bartali). After two years the owner of the shop asked me if he could put my bike on display during winter time and use it for exhibitions. He wanted to put some stickers on the bike with the name of his shop and offered me a set of wheels in return, which I did and I never took them off, so that is the story after."

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Cinetica

In this previous article, "A Visit with Cino Cinelli", there is this passage from an interview from 1986:

"Among those who consult regularly with Cino is his own son Andrea, who is about to start his own bicycle company. Called Cinetica, it will market radically new frames and accessories."

Pictured above are photographs of a Cinetica "Giotto" frame that recently appeared on ebay. The black & white photo is of Andrea Cinelli.

The ebay seller wrote this description:
"Here is one of the rarest racing frames ever produced. The Cinetica "Giotto". This is a true carbon fiber monocoque built racing frame. Hand made in Italy with the expertise and cooperation of 3 world class companies: Cinelli, Campagnolo, Ferarri.

In the 1980's Andrea Cinelli who hails from the Cinelli name decided to manufacture the ultimate racing frame. Along with Ferrari and Campagnolo the design was perfected and production went into effect. Sadly, only several dozen were ever made. It was just too expensive to manufacture, in 1991 these frames sold for $3500. All the Cinetica frames used Campagnolo dropouts stamped: Cinetica. As for the paint, that was provided by Ferrari along with its carbon expertise.

You will not find much info on the internet about Cinetica, it was way WAY ahead of its time. One claim to fame for this frame is the fact that it was used as a prop in 1991 in Terminator 2, Judgement Day, 1991 starring Arnold Schwarzenegger...look it up see for yourself.

Why is this frame so rare, it started it all...while everybody was messing with aluminum, Andrea Cinelli had a vision to use carbon fiber. To the best of my knowledge, I know of only 4 of these frames on the planet as of this day. In the late 1980's there were a few companies who experimented w/ carbon ...won't mention names...why ruffle feathers, the end result was failure. Cinetica was 20 years ahead of its time.

OK, here are the frame specs:

Fork: Carbon Fiber with a 1" threaded Columbus steel steering column.

Size: 57cm (center to top)

Size: 57cm (center to top)

Top tube length: 56cm (center to center)

Headset: 1" threaded (original headset was a Campagnolo C-Record setup)

Bottom Bracket threading: Italian

Seatpost diameter: 27.2mm (seatpost not included)

Front derailleur: braze-on

Frame/Fork weight: 5.7lbs (all the inserts are Columbus steel...headset, BB, wheel stays (Campagnolo), seatpost, etc.)

Wheel size: 700c

Condition: used in trade shows. This frame has traveled the world multiple times, there are some scuffs on the frame...see pics. Mileage wise: about 500 miles. This frame was mostly used as a prop and unique trade show bike.

All the cables & housing for the frame is internal (rear brake, front derailleur, rear derailleur), only the front brake cable/housing is exposed, naturally.

One more important note: because the age of the frame there are cracks in the paint. The Ferrari paint is very thick it is not the type of paint used today which is more adaptable to carbon flexing. The Cinetica's paint is a bit brittle and if needed could use a new coat. I assure you there is no carbon crack or frame damage, you are simply seeing the cracks in the 20 year old thick external paint job (see pics). The paint cracks are situated along the BB and seatpost area. Again, this is the paint and NOT the carbon fiber."


Additional information about the Cinetica history is desired.

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